Why we believe it’s not ethical to sell antivirus software for Windows XP any longer

Why we believe it’s not ethical to sell antivirus software for Windows XP any longer

A few weeks ago, Windows XP turned 14.

Have you heard about the concept of dog years? It’s based on the belief that one dog year is equivalent to seven human years. Well, there’s also a theory that one computer year equals 20 human years. When you apply the concept of dog years to computers, a 14-year-old computer would be 280 years old in human years – and it’s difficult to argue with the idea that an operating system is any different. In fact, hardware usually outlives software, which should remove all doubt that XP has passed its use-by date.

Microsoft clearly thinks so, given that it wound up support for XP in April 2014.

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Yet, according to the latest newmarketshare data, XP is still the second most popular operating system, with an 11.68% market share in October 2015. While this falls well behind current market leader Windows 7, which has 55.71% of market share, it’s still a significant number.

Only about five per cent of Emsisoft users are still running XP. While this is far fewer than the proportion still using XP in the general population (showing how savvy our customers are), we think it’s still too many. If you are still running XP or Vista, or know someone who is, read on – it could save you thousands of dollars and innumerable hours of anxiety.

 

Prepare to dodge the bullets if you’re being told you’re still protected

Old operating systems like XP and Vista are not only insecure because of their age but also because they lack several operating system kernel features that help anti-virus and anti-malware providers deliver their critical security features.

As tech writer and all-round geek Chris Hoffman says, Windows XP is the security equivalent of Swiss cheese. Not only does Microsoft no longer support XP, as of July this year, it no longer provides virus definitions and updates for its Malicious Software Removal Tool. There are new threats all the time. This year, there’s been an increase in ransomware along with a super-critical bug that opens a doorway, through an OpenType fonts vulnerability, and gives attackers full access to your PC.

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Even with the best anti-virus or anti-malware solution in place, you’re vulnerable to attack. It’s a bit like installing a state-of-the-art home security system and then leaving all your doors and windows open when you go away for the weekend.

Put simply, it’s no longer ethical to sell antivirus software that pretends to protect XP and Vista when both lack significant security features in their core structures.

 

What have frogs got to do with XP and Vista?

You know how many developing countries leapfrog technologies and end up more equipped than some so-called developed nations? Think of Bangladesh, which has gone from having very few telephones to almost everybody owning a cell phone, skipping landline phones altogether. Some new cities in China have adopted solar power, completely bypassing fossil fuels.

One of the reasons Windows XP has remained so popular is that its successor Windows Vista was so unpopular. And even though Microsoft released Vista’s successor Windows 7 back in 2009, it took a few years to be embraced – only overtaking XP in total market share at the end of 2011.

However, if you are one of those who have been reluctant to upgrade to either Windows 7 or 8.1, it is now time to leapfrog the majority of Windows users and switch to Windows 10.

Just like these leapfrogging countries and cities, moving from XP to Windows 10 is an opportunity to skip inferior technologies and more directly to a more advanced system.

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According to Dan Graziano at CNET, Windows 10 “isn’t like the horrors you may have heard about with Windows 8”. In fact, it isn’t all that different from Vista or XP from a visual standpoint. As well as a return to the familiar Start button and desktop interface that XP and Vista users know and love, Windows 10 offers a huge range of new features.

If you’ve heard rumours about how Windows 10 is spying on its users, check out ‘The truth about Windows 10 spying on almost everything you do’ for our detailed analysis. There are several steps you can take to maximize your privacy while using Windows 10, and we encourage you to explore these options.

And, like Emsisoft, Microsoft’s latest operating system operates as a service rather than a single product that will inevitably become obsolete. Effectively, you sign up as a customer for ongoing updates to its features and functionality. All Windows 10 devices will continue to receive updates “for the supported lifetime of the device”. In other words, it will be updated for as long as your hardware meets the specifications.

If you’re running XP or Vista, buying a license today for Windows 10 Home will cost $119 (£99). The Professional version costs $199 (£189).

Once you’ve installed Windows 10, you will be able to automatically upgrade to Emsisoft Anti-Malware and Emsisoft Internet Security version 11, which was released on 12 November and represents another leap in technology. You can find out more about the features here. As always, all customers who already own a valid Emsisoft license will receive this new version at no cost.

 

Watch your computer speed up with a new OS

If you’re worried that some of your software programs won’t run on Windows 10, a virtual machine environment (or the XP compatibility mode that’s included in Windows 10) could be the solution. This means you can keep using your XP software and hardware while at the same time knowing you’re doing so on a modern, supported, secure operating system.

Even though this is a good option, some of you may still wonder whether it would be better to buy a new PC or laptop, but that’s generally unnecessary – most people are pleasantly surprised how much faster their computer runs with a new operating system.

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However, some older machines may not be capable of running it. Basically, you will need the following:

  • Processor: 1GHz CPU or faster
  • RAM: 1GB (32-bit) or 2GB (64-bit)
  • Disk space: 16GB (32-bit) or 20GB (64-bit)
  • Graphics: DirectX 9-capable video card with WDDM driver

If your computer doesn’t meet these specifications, you may wish to consider buying a new PC or laptop.

 

The sun is setting

Emsisoft Anti-Malware 11 and Emsisoft Internet Security 11 will not run on XP and Vista, but the good news is that we will keep providing daily updates for XP and Vista users running Version 10 of our security suites until April 2016 as planned, so you have a little more time to upgrade.

Since Microsoft first announced that it was no longer backing XP back in April 2013, Emsisoft has been committed to giving our customers this decent “sunset provision”. However, even with our extended protection your Windows XP computer will still be vulnerable to an attack. If someone discovers a flaw in the operating system and decides to exploit it, Microsoft will not issue a patch.

With Windows 10 now available, is there really any good reason to delay? Consider upgrading today.

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  • Fathom This

    I’ll give you a good reason to “delay” (read:never change). First, I HATE Microsoft. Their sole purpose in making these “upgrades” in thier OS has been to gradually take away our control over our own computers (our files, our progams), and to increase their intrusion into our private lives. They are FORCING people into the “cloud”, which not everyone wants, and spying on our personal content. They SAY we can change settings so that we actually do have control over these things (like privacy), but then Microsoft makes it extremely difficult to FIND these settings, and they do that intentionally!! I have been an Emsisoft user for many, many years, long before XP was downgraded, and on occasion my computer would get infected. If black hatters can hack the US Pentagon – and they have – then there is no such thing as a “safe” computer, no matter what OS you’re running. Sorry to say, leaving Emsisoft for Malwarebytes after all these years.

    • David Warren

      If you hate Microsoft so much then maybe you should use Linux or some other alternative.
      As for Forcing people int the cloud, well that’s a strange way of looking at it. Where would most of us be these days without the cloud. Gmail, One drive, Dropbox, to name but a few. Safe free and easy on your devices. Do you really think Microsoft are spying on you, and if so how and why? Do Google and the rest of em do it to? We all must be very interesting.
      You could have a point though about no such thing as a safe computer, but I would add that users themselves are a bigger security risk than hackers etc

  • Mike

    I am with Fathom this, I hate Microsoft too.

  • Fathom This

    David Warren,
    If you are really this naive, there’s nothing I can do to help you. I suggest you do some research to learn about “the cloud” and its vulnerabilities. All I can say is, please educate yourself. You claim it’s “safe”. That, my friend, is laughable! Sorry, I do not mean to be condescending. You just need to wake up. The cloud is not now, nor has it ever been, “SAFE”. Any other readers, please join in?

  • geoflo

    If you are all security conscious but still use a computer then I suggest pulling the plug on your modem and stay off the net. Then the only thing you have to worry about is infected media ware ie, dvd’s cd’s flash drives etc. About as close to 100% safe as you,ll ever get.

    • Fathom This

      geoflo,

      Please go back and read my OP in which I stated, “… there is no such thing as a “safe” computer”. Thank you.

  • SLS

    As much as I love Emsisoft this article just seems like a push to Windows 10. An OS does not suddenly become insecure when official support ends. Even during official support period vunerabilities can be found AT ANYTIME and there is no guarantee that MS can detect much less fix such at any point, despite the support period. There is nothing stopping 3rd parties from developing fixes either.

    I hate Windows 10. There has been so much issues with it since its release and it continues to this day. There are many reasons NOT to go to 10. Does this mean I suggest sticking to Windows XP, no. It just means I do not support the blind push to 10.

    • Christian

      Rest assured, it’s not our intention to push Windows 10 at all. As we have written in an earlier article there are quite some controvercy elements included. But we also have to face the fact, that XP and Vista are no alternatives either and development usually knows only one direction which is not ‘backward’.

      Actually an OS indeed becomes insecure when official support ends. The latest leak in the font library in kernel demonstrated that very well. Of course, new leaks are found every day, but nobody will guarantee you that ‘someone’ will come up with a patch if MS doesn’t. Timing is a major issues here. I wouldn’t want to risk my company on the bet that I’ll endlessly receive patches from unknown entities.

      At the moment we’re waiting for that one major leak that is being used by a powerful and quickly spreading malware to kill all XP computers within days. I’d bet that such a scenario will sooner or later happen.

      The essence of that article is: XP isn’t an option anymore. Even if the alternatives are weak, they are still all better than XP.

      • Moss Miller

        I thought Vista was still supported until 2017. Works well now on older laptops as a 32-bit system. As for Microsoft, just as corporate users get used to Windows 7, they are pushing 10. The only advantage I see is the use of certain apps. Windows 8 is fine with Classic Start Menu, but still has a few annoying bugs in it. As for 10, it seems more bug free but can be slow to install updates.

      • John H. Lincicum

        Getting a Chromebook is seriously starting to be considered an option over becoming stuck with “spyware 10 factory installed” on a new laptop. I have had XP since October 2001 pre-SP 1, and now through “end of life”. I hardly even understand how to turn on the damn HP Stream 13.3’s my kids have (2 HP Streams), I never used Vista, 8.0, 8.1, and couldn’t figure out how to find MS Word and open it or Internet Explorer in my college’s computer lab. I’m turning 41 in 10 days, not 75, but it’s ridiculous how f’d up new computers are compared to XP! BTW, I’m writing you on my Google Nexus 6 with Android Marshmallow 6.0 and loving it! I save stuff where I want to save stuff, not in ” a cloud”! WTF is that anyway?! Pppfffttt!!!

      • Sokrates

        Why not to just admit that this article has been a monstrous blunder? The hell you’re not pushing Win 10, just read it again!
        Moreover, there are apparently still plenty of people willing to stick with Win XP for a number of reasons, most of them hardly objectionable, in particular when it comes to security issues such as your own operating system potentially blabbing around your private data without leaving you any hope of really being in control.
        To stop supporting XP doesn’t look like a good idea either: most of those people (including myself) will likely end up with two computers, one well isolated to work on as usual, the other an expendable one exclusively for the web. And the latter, systematically restored before connecting it, will hardly need any malware protection at all.

      • Preston Mitchell

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        *** FREE FULL LICENSE For Emsisoft Anti-Malware (for 203 days)
        This is my 5th year of using Emsisoft Internet Security. Today–on Christmas, a virus utterly destroyed Emsisoft, KILLING both Emsisoft Anti-Malware and its Online Armor firewall. Emsisoft was not just crippled but fatally corrupted by the virus. FORTUNATELY, my PC was barely saved by a FREE online scanner called HerdProtect…which quickly quarantined the virus and saved my Windows from being permanently damaged. HOW SAD THAT A FREE SOFTWARE PERFORMED BETTER THAN EMSISOFT. THEN I had to use Revo Uninstaller to uninstall Emsisoft’s CORPSE, because the DEAD Emsisoft was unable to uninstall itself. If anybody wants to use the remainder of my PAID Emsisoft license, which expires in 203 days, here is the license number: BEX-BAK-BEN-682 BUT BE WARNED…USE EMSISOFT AT YOUR OWN RISK…least you spend Christmas repairing your PC on Christmas after Emsisoft FAILS to PROTECT your PC!

      • Glenn Dunbar

        YEAH, MICROSOFT AND OTHER BIG COMPANIES ARE PROBABLY DEVELOPING IT NOW AND I WOULDN’T PUT IT PAST THE NSA. OR OTHER GOV, ENTITY. THEY WANT US ALL ON 10 TO KEEP TRACK OF US, AND RECORD WHERE WE SURF, WHERE WE BUY, Where we take a dump!!

    • techienumber1

      windows 10 is still not completed they had to release it so the customer would have something to complain about
      stick with what you are using at the mo and call it a day for upgrades as they are just a waste of time

  • Phyllis J Brockman

    Oh my aching head! I’ve read this entire article as well as the discussion and I must confess that I just don’t get what you’re all talking about. I trust and use Emisoft Malware for what you may think is a strange reason . . . I feel that German products are superior to others of the same ilk. That may be really “naive” as well but that’s just me. I’m an old crone (79) and Microsoft isn’t one of my top “likes” in the electronic world but then neither are the phone devices that do everything but wipe your butt for you. I use the simplest phone I can find and am happy if nobody ever calls me for anything but two-minute business calls. Getting back to the iterations of Microsoft, I do resent software that makes decision for me. I’ve been using computers since the 70’s when I keyed on an IBM MAG II that had no screen. My first desktop was a MacIntosh. I still use some MAC keyboard commands that work on Windows 8.1. I’m hesitant to upgrade to Windows 10 simply because I’m tired of adapting and compromising just when I’m comfortable with a system. My biggest complaint is all the software I’ve had to retire because the latest version of Windows won’t run it. i.e. I used to love Word Perfect the best word processing every developed but Windows made it all but impossible to run. Oh well, this is my very uneducated addition to your discussion and I’m going to shut down now to save a watt or two of electricity. Thanks for the interesting moment in my day.

  • Watcher

    Watcher
    The author is correct about old operating systems but Billy Boy has never had a secure OS since he started churning them out. One thing I’ve learned is that if you have security software on your computer, especially a good firewall, you can both hide your computer from attackers and mitigate attacks against it. Using a Wi-Fi router or hotspot, properly configured, also helps. The NAT protocol hides the internal IP address which is not routable on the Internet. I have a cellular hotspot and my firewall logs are clean. Cellular adds encryption. I have had no connection attempts against my computer since I started using it. Hardware is more difficult to defeat than software. The attacker must know what kind of hardware you are using. Using different security software combinations, different-branded firewall, anti-spyware, and antivirus, can also help but an attacker may be able to go around them through the OS, especially an older one.

  • HipposRBest

    Absolute load of rubbish. Both Embedded and POSReady (based on XP) are still supported (POSReady for another 4 years)

  • Mark Jacobs

    XP SP3 is fine. Once the OS is stable, there should be no need to update it. Security issues should be addressed by suitable AV software, NOT THE BLINKING OS!

    I have been running both Windows 7 and 8.1 systems with updates off for at least a year, and I turned them off because TrustedInstaller.exe was really caning my systems every afternoon, hammering the daylights out of my CPU, whilst achieving nothing. This happened on many office PCs too, and the only solution was to turn off updates. So far, no problems! Sure, in the XP days, you’d need to get to at least SP2 but better SP3 to be secure, even with suitable AV software. However, nowadays, Windows 7 SP1 onwards is just fine and dandy.

    You will seriously want to avoid running Windows 10 – why do you think they are pushing it so hard? And even to those with pirated Windows? There is so much in terms of telemetry going on, even with recent updates to Windows 8.1, I am pointing you at these resources :-

    To remove Windows 7 and 8 updates involving telemetry, use :-

    wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3075249 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /quiet /norestart

    To remove telemetry from Windows 10, use :-

    reg add HKLMSOFTWAREPoliciesMicrosoftWindowsDataCollection /v AllowTelemetry /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
    reg add HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionPoliciesDataCollection /v AllowTelemetry /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
    sc config DiagTrack start=disabled
    sc config dmwappushservice start=disabled
    sc stop DiagTrack
    sc stop dmwappushservice

    HTH, regards ;-)

    • U2Brutus

      The suggestion to switch from XP to W10 is not a good one. I did upgrade my 2 laptops from W7 to W10. Both upgrades went fine, but soon I discovered that one laptop had serious problems with permissions on too many folder and files to mention en also One Drive was causing headaches. Took me over 2 months to, mainly manually, fix all issues.
      Overall I am not fond of W10 at all. It is true that even with an older PC/Laptop, you can run this OS while it performs rather fast. But dive in the MS Community and find which problems users are reporting and you will be cured in a second.
      Overall I was a very satisfied user of W7, but unfortunately that OS is too heavy for older PC’s/Laptops and indeed you need to turn off the automatic updates and install those manually yourself at a regular basis.
      Sorry to say, dear XP users, but you’re caught in a catch 22 situation. I guess that Linux is probably the best solution to choose, even if you’re not familiar with it. Nowadays there are sufficient versions that are delivered with a user friendly customer interface!
      Good luck!

      • techienumber1

        every thing after windows 7 was a mess stick with it and be fine

  • Bill White

    I LIKE MY WINDOW XP WHY THE HECK I WONT TO USE AN BUG OVER CRAPWARE WINDOW 10!
    AND WHY IN THE HECK YOU WOULD PUT AN CELLPHONE PROGRAM ON AN DAME LAPTOP?

  • Chiron

    Sorry, I’m not buying it.
    It took me years to get to know XP well enough, to remove or gag its most annoying features and to trim it to my liking, and now you expect me to restart all over again on a new operating system even less respectful of my privacy, even more padded with plenty of unnecessary bells and whistles, and still way under development (or how else would you explain all those endless daily updates?).
    All I demand of an OS is that it handles my files the way I want, that it doesn’t call home after nosing into my business, and that it sees me as its master rather than as just another moron. My lobotomized XP does all that.
    Thus if sticking with it means relinquishing the precious and most appreciated services of Emsisoft, so be it. I’m sorry…

    • Flavia Auditore da Firenze

      It’s not just Emsisoft, eventually all other AV vendors will stop supporting Windows XP.

      Your decision to not upgrade also affects other people, by making your computer a malware infested hole to spread to other machines… so at least do us a favor and upgrade to 7 at least. Or unplug the XP machine from the internet.

      • Fathom This

        Flavia,

        Let’s get something straight. No AV vendors have been “supporting XP”. Emsisoft announced last year that it would offer it’s *limited* protection, to the best of its
        ability, for the next year or so, but they also strongly advised its membership
        to upgrade their systems and warned us that they could not promise that their “protection” would necessarily even be effective.

        The only product-specific support for Windows XP that has EVER been available to the market was from Microsoft, not “AV vendors”. Furthermore, if you are keeping your OS up-to-date and you’re running Emsisoft AntiMalware, you needn’t worry about anyone else’s system infecting you, XP or not XP. Unless it’s a zero day, out in the wild, and then you can bend over and kiss it all good-bye, like the rest of the world.

    • jcitizen

      There really is an alternative to getting rid of XP! — Don’t! — All you got to do is make a backup image of the entire hard drive – preferably while it is healthy – I like the free Macrium Reflect – and put it on another flash, hard drive, or DVD, and when you get hit! POOF! In about 20 minutes everything is back as before. If you want to go one step further to having a restful sleep at night – install Microsoft Steady State and it will reconstruct your files as if nothing happened when attacked – just reboot and POOF! Everything is as before – there are malware that can defeat Steady State, but how much is it worth to use your number 1 favorite operating system of all time?

      When I went to college the school was using Deep Freeze by Faronics, and they have never had a successful intrusion into their system in over 20 years! I have no skin in the game for this company, I just know the results are amazing. Libraries and businesses all over the world use this hard drive armor to reliably protect the system from unauthorized writes to the hard drive. It cost 45 dollars a year, but you will never need to upgrade or update your operating system again. Imagine being able to use you favorite applications that have gone out of support, and you still need them to get things done – well this is the way to get by for years to come.

      There are other competitors, but I haven’t had the time to try their products, and I’ve seen Faronics in action, so I tend to favor battle tested software. I have no skin in this game and am not getting any compensation for suggesting this great alternative, I just like to help people out of jams with their computers, and at the most economical way that still makes sense. BTW, I’ve never figured out how to install Steady State, so you may have to visit a forum or two – maybe bleepingcmputer(dot)com might help. I’m going to try to install DriveVaccine some day as it is supposedly the best, but I haven’t got round to it yet. It is a little cheaper and you can find it on sale for cheap once and a while. CNET reviews are stellar! Remember – you are bee-bopping along like my crazy friend who lost his XP computer, and BOOM! You get hit just like he did! Only difference is, you simply reboot and POOF! Everything is as before – there is a certain smugness defeating what is the best the bad guys can throw at you, and I get off doing that every day!

  • Fathom This

    Thanks for that link, Mark. I can see you and I are definitely on the same page!

  • jcitizen

    I had a client that was still on XP because of being poor and not knowing how to run Linux at all – and he had some of the best protection on that machine that you could buy; but he refused to shut down his browser/game console when MBAM told him he was under attack and POOF! His computer was all gone! That attack literally totally wiped his hard drive! I couldn’t even find a trace of data on it, using forensic software – so I’d say that killer virus, email, malware whatever is already here, it is just that some people’s behavior causes it to hit sooner rather than all at once. He ended up going to Apple to limp along, but he runs a business, and Windows is the only choice for him, so his daughter had compassion and gave him an “old” computer – probably running Win 8.1. and now he is back in business! He is so scared he just goes to his online store and then shuts the computer down immediately. He has learned to be ultra paranoid – but it wasn’t like I didn’t try to tell him to back up his data, and take a moment to update his apps, and etc. etc., but some folks is just hard headed like that, until BOOM! It hits them square in the jaw! Sometimes you just can’t fix carelessness. Some folks just have to be blown out of the water to wake up and smell the coffee!

    • Glenn Dunbar

      Even if you were right, My issue is being told that I must upgrade. If my PC should catch fire and turn into ashes, YOU won’t MAKE me upgrade or tell me what you think is BEST for me!!!! It’s my choice.and what it this about ethics? does Emsisoft really care about ethics in this corrupt world? It’s about Money, Power, and control, and they ARE pushing towards windows 10!! And, no matter what features it has, I HATE IT, AND because Emsisoft thinks it’s “ethical’ to upgrade” I purposely won’t!!!

      • jcitizen

        I wouldn’t upgrade just because someone told me to, either. I’m still using XP, but in a very limited way. I rarely connect to the internet. There is a way to set XP up so you almost never have to worry about it, by installing the free Steady State by Microsoft. It locks the drive data so almost no malware can take over the operating system. The chances of catching malware that can defeat it are pretty slim. However MS no longer supports it, so a guy would have to join a forum to find out how to install and maintain it.

        • Glenn Dunbar

          If you have a 1990 PC, no one should tell you (you must upgrade ) it is your choice!!

          • jcitizen

            For sure! I still like playing with old PCs and there is a whole community out there still writing DOS programs for Windows 3.1!!!

          • Glenn Dunbar

            I believe it is “unethical” not to extend support to anyone who legitimately wants to purchase your product, you can I suppose, not offer support , but your have a ethical duty to let your product be used by a paying customer, regardless of the results. And when you start pushing windows 10, I know microsoft, or BIG BUSINESS, MONEY, AND, CONTROL, is guiding your “ethical” worries you have about windows XP. It is none of your business what we want to use as a OS!!! Just offer protection when we buy your product, as paying customers. You can always opt out of giving support, But, how DARE you tell us you wont protect it, because IT”S NOT ETHICAL!!!!!!! WHAT A JOKE!! -Buy the way, I still hate windows 10. I don’t care if it could fly, and produce miracles. Glenn Dunbar.

    • Glenn Dunbar

      That was for Emsisoft , sorry.

  • Glenn Dunbar

    JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE ETHICS OF CUTTING WINDOWS XP OUT, WHAT IS NEXT? WIDOWS 7? THEN 8.1? AREN’T YOU WORKING TOWARD WINDOWS 10? WHY ARE YOU SO INTERESTED IN ME UPGRADING? YOU AND EVERY OTHER AV ARE SELLING OUT TO MICROSOFT!! I”M SO TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT ’10’ I DON”T CARE!!!!!! I’M NOT UPGRADING UNTIL NEVER!!!! THANK YOU.

  • Glenn Dunbar

    I DID JOIN. I”M NOT WRITING THAT AGAIN, GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!!-AND I LOGGED IN!

  • Glenn Dunbar

    How can you provide updates for Emsisoft 10? When I was using it, -and you went to version 11, It AUTOMATICALLY upgraded. and I lost version 10!! Only now, with version 11, is there a feature for delaying updates!! So you deliberately cut off windows XP, and vista.Unless they use emergency kit , that has no real time protection, or behavior feature.Whats next? version 12, that cuts off windows 7, or 8.1? This is all an attempt to get everybody on windows 10. I was running ‘Bitdefender” vulnerability scan, and they said I needed an important microsoft update, I WAS WINDOWS 10!! I almost accidentally downloaded it!! SO, YOUR ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!! BIG BUSINESS!!! You can kiss my Microsoft -well you know!! Even my support assistant on my PC wont leave me alone!! HP is part of BIG BUSINESS TOO!! I’m SICK of hearing it!! WHY ARE YOU ALL SO INTERESTED IN MY UPGRADE? WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO YOU??? EVERYWHERE I GO IT:S WINDOWS 10!!! WINDOWS 10!!! I WANT TO HURL!!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!! I like the OS I’m using!!

    • Christian

      Emsisoft version 10 does not upgrade to version 11 on Win XP and Vista. So version 10 continues to receive daily detection updates, but not more software updates.

      • Glenn Dunbar

        That still doesn’t change the overall fact of what you wrote in your article!! That Xp is like swiss cheese!! I DON”T CARE IF IT HAS A 50% wide exploit hole in it. You can’y persuade me to upgrade, -And I HAVE NOTICED HOW HARD YOU AV COMPANIES ARE PUSHING WIN 10 !! EVEN MY OWN PC SUPPORT ASSISTANT I HAD TO DISABLE BECAUSE IT WOULD”NT SHUT UP ABOUT WINDOWS 10!!!!! THERE IS A ALL OUT EFFORT BETWEEN ALL YOU (GUYS) TO GET US TO UPGRADE TO 10. EVERYBODY ON 10.THAT”S THE GOAL. In 2016, I’m sure Microsoft will come out and say it will no longer offer updates to mainstream home PC’s!! THAT”S COMING SOON FOR WIN. 7, maybe 8.1. Why are you acting as if your selling out? How about clarifying this article, and showing your intentions are not as it seems when you read it? I’d like to give you the benefit of the doubt.- By the way, I have an XP, and used and protected carefully, there is NO PROBLEMS WITH MY ‘SWISS CHEESE” -if your PC savy.

        • Christian

          Glenn, I believe you’re not getting the whole point of the article here. Honestly, I don’t care if you update to Win10, Win8 or Win7, as long as you’re choosing a product that is still supported and provided with security patches. I also have my troubles with certain aspects of Win10, but as stated in the article, there are not many alternatives at the moment. Win XP definitely isn’t an option from a security point of view. Not because of us, but because of the system itself.

          If you’re saying that you’re fine to use a swiss cheese operating system, I have great news for you: You can safe the money for Antivirus software too! Because there is no point in running an antivirus if you don’t care whether your system will be hacked and converted into a malware spreading machine anyway. Sooner or later your ‘PC savy’ argument will run out of power because there will be no way to prevent your XP from becoming infected. Just please be aware, that you’re not only risking your own stuff, but also many other users around the world too.

          • Glenn Dunbar

            It’s mine to risk not yours, and since I don;t bother anyone, I;m not infecting anyone. You don’t think I can tell if my XP is infected? Your product is not the only tool I turn to, There are many other options to protect my Piece of Swiss Cheese!!! And I know what to do.If the Whole PC Blows up in my Face IT’s my Problem not Emsisofts. I have safe guards, I’m not infected at lest not at this time. I know how to write code and work miracles!!! I guess you haven’t messed with an XP in a LONG time, you make it sound so useless, and if your not careful, maybe it is for you. I’m O.K. If I cant take it anymore, I promise to upgrade, by 2050. Glenn Dunbar.

  • Glenn Dunbar

    Windows 10 was rushed out way before the OS is ready.There are a obscene number of continual updates, and some of the updates are a problem in themselves!! All the features are so buggy, and It cant recognize printers, and other accessories, I wouldn’t get an upgrade until summer of 2016. It was deliberately RUSHED OUT< AND HALF BAKED!!! And your saying that windows XP has a problem? Your in the pocket of big business, And want everyone on windows 10 weather we want it or NOT!!!! Just the fact it's not really ready, makes it UNETHICAL to support yet. Also I THINK WINDOWS 10 IS UGLY, WITH A HORRENDOUS SQUARE SCREEN IN THE CORNER OF A BIGGER WINDOW SCREEN. IT WAS QUICKLY ASSEMBLED, AND ANOTHER NIGHTMARE FROM MICROSOFT, THAT CAN"T MAKE ANYTHING RIGHT ANYMORE!!! I USE WINDOWS XP AS WELL, AS 7, 8.1, AND WITH MY EFFORTS IN PROTECTION AND PREVENTION I"M DOING FINE!!!! DON"T TELL ME WHAT I CAN OR CAN"T RUN!!! WINDOWS 10, IS A PIECE OF SWISS CHEESE TOO.THERE ARE MANY OTHER PRODUCTS CAPABLE OF PROTECTING WINDOWS XP.,I DON"T BOUGH DOWN TO EMSISOFT!!!!!

  • Glenn Dunbar

    THAT”S MY LAST COMMENT ON THIS RIDICULOUS SUBJECT!!

    • Christian

      Glenn, I think you made your point and it’s up to you to believe whatever you want. We posted our professional view above and you are free to agree or disagree with that.

      Though, please understand that we can’t tolerate anyone to spam our comments area with uppercase messages, so please stick to you own words above and let that be your last comment. Thank you.

      • Glenn Dunbar

        YEAH, YOU ARE RIGHT THERE, SORRY!

  • Glenn Dunbar

    Here is Another reason NOT TO UPGRADE TO WINDOWS 10-

    Browsing history and open websites.

    Apps settings.

    WiFi hotspot names and passwords.Your device is by default tagged with a unique advertising ID.

    Used to serve you with personalized advertisements by third-party advertisers and ad networks.Cortana can collect any of your data.

    Your keystrokes, searches and mic input.

    Calendar data.

    Music you listen to.

    Credit Card information.

    Purchases.Microsoft can collect any personal data.

    Your identity.

    Passwords.

    Demographics.

    Interests and habits.

    Usage data.

    Contacts and relationships.

    Location data.

    Content like emails, instant messages, caller list, audio and video recordings.Your data can be shared.

    When downloading Windows 10, you are authorizing Microsoft to share any of above mentioned data with any third-party, with or without your consent.

    This is just the tip of the iceberg!! THAT’S WHY THESE BIG AV companies are in bed with microsoft and big business!!

  • Glenn Dunbar

    More BAD news on Windows 10,
    Even when told not to, Windows 10 just can’t stop talking to Microsoft. It’s no wonder that privacy activists are up in arms. -Windows 10 privacy paranoia leads to ban from private pirate torrent trackers. Pirates are concerned that Win10 will send the contents of your hard disk to Microsoft. –
    What Windows 10’s “Privacy Nightmare” Settings Actually Do. -.
    Windows 10 Reserves The Right To Block Pirated Games And ‘Unauthorized’ Hardware. This is also JUST the TIP OF THE ICE BURG> AND IT IS WHY THERE IS SUCH A PUSH FOR WINDOWS 10!! I BELIEVE< SOMTIME THIS YEAR< THEY WILL CUT OFF WINDOWS 7 , 8.1 and MAKE Windows 10 MANDATORY!! I wouldn't be surprised. The big Companies have utter contempt for the customer, because they know whats best for US!!!! BEWARE Glenn .

  • Glenn Dunbar

    SO EMSISOFT DO YOU CALL THIS ETHICAL??

  • Glenn Dunbar

    With Windows 10 now available, is there really any good reason to delay? Consider upgrading today.
    EMSISOFT OWN WORDS!! ABOVE

  • Glenn Dunbar

    P.S. You can find some of this stuff on popular websites, However I didn’t want to name one for the sake of posting.

  • Glenn Dunbar

    HERE IS A GOOD REASON NOT TO UPGRADE-
    Data syncing is by default enabled.
    Browsing history and open websites.
    Apps settings.
    WiFi hotspot names and passwords.Your device is by default tagged with a unique advertising ID.
    Used to serve you with personalized advertisements by third-party advertisers and ad networks.Cortana can collect any of your data.
    Your keystrokes, searches and mic input.
    Calendar data.
    Music you listen to.
    Credit Card information.
    Purchases.Microsoft can collect any personal data.
    Your identity.
    Passwords.
    Demographics.
    Interests and habits.
    Usage data.
    Contacts and relationships.
    Location data.
    Content like emails, instant messages, caller list, audio and video recordings.Your data can be shared.
    When downloading Windows 10, you are authorizing Microsoft to share any of above mentioned data with any third-party, with or without your consent.

    • JamesDomb

      Glenn Dunbar, I’m all on your side and I too will never leave XP until they offer me something better and not only newer.
      But if you insist flooding this blog with your all-capitals disagreement you make us all XP-users look like fanatics while most of us have plenty of rational reasons to stay with XP rather than with Emsisoft (a drastic decision we’d rather avoid if possible, but it isn’t).
      So please stay calm and when you have anything new to say, say it like a gentleman and say it only once .

      Thanks.

      • Glenn Dunbar

        SORRY, ACTUALLY, I USE BIG LETTERS BECAUSE OFMY EYESIGHT.

  • So if Glenn Dunbar is correct about the frightening privacy issues of Windows 10…. And since 10 is promoted as a service as long as hardware supports it….. Does this mean that I will never… ever be able to adress those issues at all ??? Does it actually mean that Big Brother will put it’s ugly boot in my door forever and my only option remains to take it or leave it…. ?? No way dictature is going to rule over my freedom !!! As much as I rely on Emsisoft and appreciate their service with Windows 7….. I would never upgrade to a so-called service that can potentially do what Dunbar oulined… So could Christian please tell me what is the Official Date Microsoft has set to stop servicing and updating Windows 7 ??? Just so I know how much time left I have with a decent system…. Thank You in advance for your kind understanding and reply !!!

    • Christian

      You can find the official support roadmap for Windows here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows/lifecycle

    • Glenn Dunbar

      THEY are planning to dump windows 7, and 8.1 by july 1917 at the latest.And if you have automatic download in windows update active, they will try to download it without your permission!! I suggest you download “GWX control panel” -google it. and It will help protect you from unauthorized downloads of windows 10.They have no intention of keeping their original agreement as far as update support.

  • I would also appreciate some intelligent enlightenment on the truth about W10 free upgrade… a few months ago i ran the full updating process as per specified (all updates including KB30305581)… To my dismay the answer I got is following: cannot upgrade your system: CPU does not support SSL 2 (if I recall correctly) Now what’s the joke I see here on emsisoft that minimum requirement is 1 gigahertz processor… Mine is 2,4 ghz Intel Pentium 4 and I have 2 gigs ram… 0n a 32 bit 7 Pro… Something is wrong here… I would call this fraud for less… Since I’m a 101 case in computer technology…. An answer of some intelligent kind would be appreciated…. And also why can’t Microsoft just scan my system and tell me it can’t upgrade before installing 4 GHZ of useless crap on MY computer ???

  • Glenn Dunbar

    I am writing this on the 30th of January 2016. From some of the stuff Iv’e been reading, lately, Microsoft is NOT going to honour the dates, (winows 7 2020, and windows 8.1 2023) ,instead, they are deciding to force us windows 7 , 8.1, users to upgrade by july 2017!! Therefore, breaking their own good faith agreement with it’s windows 7,& 8.1 customers!! Even worse, they are also going after businesses too!!! So NOW YOU KNOW THAT Microsoft is a sleazy, corporation, interested in what they think is right for us to run!! WE ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH!! This is JUST WHAT I SAID would happen!! ,I am going mac, or any operating system other than microsoft!! I now WILL NEVER, EVER,EVER, Upgrade. Windows 10 is a trojan on your PC!! don’t give in!! There is something fishy about this absolute all out assault on our free choice!! What is in windows 10, that is so urgent??I will never be the ONE WHO FINDS OUT!!! Good luck- the way it is going, someone may come to my door and tell me to upgrade -AT GUNPOINT!! Glenn Dunbar.

  • Glenn Dunbar

    News flash!! ARRESTS have now been made for unscrupulous people found operating WINDOWS 7 in their basement!! It’s reported that there are windows 7, and 8.1 factories running out of many area houses!! Canine units have been dispatched to “sniff out” the suspects. Local Authorities will stop anyone, With a PC that has any other program other than windows 10 on it.Microsoft’s CEO commented, WE WILL GET YOU, AND YOU WILL COMPLY!! Now to other news…..

    • techienumber1

      u r sad

    • Wang Yan Rong Kevin

      you should really stop now. You’re not only making yourself look like some sort of uncontrollable capital-letters spiller but also reinforcing anyone’s views that people who want to stay in windows XP are just stupid people that want to force-stick with their own views.

      EDIT: You are making yourself looking idiotic with this obviously fake news flash. You used to bring out some good points in you earlier posts but now you’re really just spewing crap and rubbish

      • Glenn Dunbar

        O. K.Mr. Wang Yan, Maybe you like how microsoft has treated their customers, But I assure you, I know many people JUST SEETHING!! For What Microsoft’s business practices are doing, Maybe you need the CEO to stuff a windows 10 os, you know where!! NOBODY FORCES ME TO Change mt system, (That I BOUGHT in good faith) -and I’m still happy with it!!, TO DO what they think is right for me, I have supposedly till 2020 to keep running windows 7, or any version I want!! I Bought it, they gave me a fixed amount of time to support it!! ANd that’s IT!! WHAT YOU DON”T CARE TO SEE IS IT”S ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY WANT TO FORCE AN UPGRADE BECAUSE THEY NEED MORE MONEY!! THEY DON”T CARE ABOUT US, OR MAKING US SAFER,HA! IT.S ABOUT MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Have this Poor friend that owns a business, who walked in one morning and found a whole new operating system, And his, is older, and not very compatible, So now he has to buy all new equipment, or try to get an” it” guy sort though the disaster that Microsoft made, THEY DIDN’T CARE ABOUT HIM!! Just THE MONEY HE HAS TO SHELL OUT , TO CONVERT TO WINDOWS 10!! I wan’t to HURL if I hear about that System ONE MORE TIME!!! I HATE IT I HATE WHAT THEY DID, And I WILL DIE BEFORE I UPDATE!!

        • Wang Yan Rong Kevin

          I didn’t say you should i update, i said you should stop spamming the chat group